Thursday, February 11, 2010

Timing the Race for NY-23

Mayor Graham has an interesting take on the two-step campaign that will be waged for the NY-23 race this year. First, the Republican candidates will have a primary that happens on Tuesday, September 14th. Then the GOP winner will go up against incumbent Congressman Bill Owens on Tuesday, November 2nd.

The timing here is important because the district is so large and rural. Mayor Graham had it right that this race will take a lot of organization and old-fashioned shoe leather. While we are still seven months out from the primary, that is not a lot of time to build an aggressive grassroots team across a huge rural district like NY-23. And seven months is not a lot of time if you want to be taken seriously as a candidate who can beat an incumbent like Bill Owens.

It is also getting really late for any other candidates to get into the ring at this late juncture. At least three candidates: Barclay, Doheny and Hoffman, are building staff and attending some local events. It would be a fair prediction to suggest that no other candidate will be taken seriously as the campaigns shift into second gear. For some candidates, the longer they wait to officially get into the political ring, the harder it becomes to be competitive in building the name ID and trust that will be needed to bring down Bill Owens in November.

Doug Hoffman has a head start because of the momentum he built in the special election last year. He likely has an impressive file of donors, volunteers, and supporters who helped him become competitive in the last two weeks of the race last year. Hoffman is the only candidate with a campaign website and he is dominating the new political battlefront, online campaigning. Hoffman's infrastructure will go a long way because the file his campaign developed last year is fairly updated, having been created just months ago, and ready to be tapped into.

Will Barclay also an advantage as we move into the second half of February. He has good name recognition in the western end of the district where he is an incumbent Assemblyman. He also has some name ID in the central part of NY-23 from his failed State Senate run against Darrel Aubertine. Barclay's challenge is to become more well known in the eastern and central part of the state where he hasn't been as active in politics. That task can be accomplished in seven months, but he will need to start moving quickly.

It would be to Matt Doheny's strategic advantage if he officially entered the race sooner rather than later. Based on the context of Mayor Graham's blog post today, I would expect Doheny to make that move rather soon because of his political necessity -- he has to do something to shake this race up!

Doheny, the New York investor, has been away from the district for almost ten years, and while he has maintained two homes here (one in Watertown and one on an Island on the river) it will presumably be much harder for him to build the kind of infrastructure that already exists for the two other leading GOP contenders. Voters who have met Doheny that we have talked to have called him a candidate that is "a bit elitist and very mysterious." Getting into the thick of the campaign could help Doheny build new trust, stronger alliances and improve his low name ID. These negatives were evident in the latest poll that came out last month showing Doheny in 4th place with only 2% favorable name ID. NY-23 is a big district and it takes a lot of time to meet the voters, build their trust and introduce yourself. With that said, Doheny does have a team in place and is raising early money, albeit from Wall Street bankers and traditional Democratic donors.

These races, especially multi-candidate primaries, are hard to predict. However, with a protracted calendar the advantage would seem to lay with Hoffman and then Barclay, which may give us some insight into why both candidates have yet to make an official declaration of their intent to run yet. With less time to compete for voters, both Hoffman and Barclay (in that order) will have a competitive advantage in rallying their pre-existing networks of political support, compared to other candidates who are still on the sidelines and just now beginning to make their first-time introductions.

Certainly money means a lot, but all candidates have the same amount of time, which is finite in politics. How well each candidate choses to strategize the schedule will play a big part in who gets to face Bill Owens for the federal seat, which will always be remembered as Congressman John McHugh's old job.

25 comments:

  1. Everyone thought Hillary Clinton had the advantage of name recognition during her presidential campaign and look what happened there...even with the "Clinton machine" behind her. There is a lot of time between now and September and I would not be at all surprised if Doheny pulls this out in the end. He is smart on the issues that people need the candidate to be smart on right now...the economy. Hoffman, on the other hand, isn't really smart on anything. Barclay actually has the goods too, but too many people are tainted by the Aubertine campaign...if a few more years had passed people might have forgotten it a bit, but right now it is fresh and thus people seem to be biased against him. I predict Doheny. Sorry Buggs, it is clear you are a Hoffman fan, but that is what I think.

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  2. Previous commenter: You are entitled to your opinion and you make an argument that needs to be addresses. It is true that you can't count your chickens before they have hatched.

    However, the Democratic Presidential primary was a much longer campaign between Obama and Clinton. Obama had time to make his case, which he barely did, and won the day towards the end of the campaign. He did it by starting early in the process. Early on Obama went to the left of Clinton and quickly won that ground from away from the other potential challengers. No one else could compete against him for the liberal nod. On the moderate side of the party Clinton had to compete against Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, and to some extent John Edwards. She split the moderate vote while Obama ran away with the liberals. That is comparable to Hoffman running away with the conservatives while Barclay and Doheny fight each other for moderates and liberals.

    Also it is important to recognize that people in the Democratic Party wanted "change" not "experience." That was the message that resonated in 2008. In 2010 people on the Republican side of things are looking for "fiscal & social conservative" (i.e. Hoffman) not "moderate-Bill Owens lite" (i.e. Doheny & Barclay).

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  3. Wow, again the extreme right calls everyone who is not extreme, liberals. Please clarify why you think Doheny and Barclay are "moderate Bill Owens lite". It is so ridiculous.

    On a different note, although you seem sure that the district is socially conservative, moderate Bill Owens beat the same socially conservative candidate you seem the think represents what the people want. They didn't 4 months ago. What has changed?

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  4. I would really like a Hoffman supporter to articulate why, SPECIFICALLY, he or she thinks Hoffman is better than Barclay or Doheny. And I am not asking for some moron to call Doheny and Barclay liberals...if anyone studied their platforms they would learn that that is SO WRONG, especially Doheny - to call him liberal is like calling me skinny, and I am pushing 3 bills. So please, issue by issue, I beg someone to tell me why Hoffman is the better choice. My mind is not made up, but Hoffman has really failed to impress me. He seems grossly uninformed and worse, he does not appear to be even a little bit concerned about the fact that he is uninformed, which I think is even more unacceptable...PLEASE...enlighten me as the merits of Hoffman relative to the other candidates. There has to be something other than tea party fluff that people like.

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  5. I'm losing so I'm going to try and beat up on Hoffman and his supporters. Maybe that will win me votes? Wrong - it makes you look desperate and pathetic. How about you tell us what Doheny is conservative on... besides taking money from Democrat donors on Wall Street.

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  6. Doheny did fully support the biggest moderate in Republican history: Dede Scozzafava. He wrote a press release saying how much he supported her because she was good for the district and he even wrote her a $2,400 check. Not many conservatives would support Scozzafava over Hoffman or Owens.

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  7. I would rather see something in writing from him or his staff to ensure that what I say is right, but I will give it a try. This is what I have learned so far. First and foremost, he despipses big government and the taxes that support it. Doheny is a low tax, small government champion. Extremely fiscally conservative. He is against cap and trade. He is against the ridiculous health care reform bill that has been tossed around washington for far too long. He is against gay marriage. His biggest priority seems to be to bring jobs to the area, not just provide a bunch of handouts that are not self sustaining - the whole teach a man to fish argument. Now, how about Hoffman?

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  8. An email sent by Doug Hoffman to Dede Scozzafava on July 24th, two days after he lost the GOP nomination:

    "Hi Dede. Congratulations and the best of luck in your candidacy," Mr. Hoffman wrote in the letter. "Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Doug."

    Then Hoffman denied sending it...foolish foolish man...email leaves a paper trail. I know one thing for sure...I definitely do not want another dishonest, disloyal politician in Washington and Hoffman has proven himself to be both.

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  9. 7:31 - you are smoking something if you think a liberal would EVER vote for Doheny or Barclay. They aren't liberal and are both opposed to every major Pelosi supported bill out there. In fact, Doheny's position are way more right than most Republicans out there, but for whatever reason people seem to be so stuck on Hoffman. What is it? The fact that he is clueless makes him adorable? I just don't see it. Don't you want to be proud of the people who represent the district? Haven't we been a laughing stock long enough? I just don't get the appeal of such an uninformed man.

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  10. Doheny and Barclay are both pro-abortion.

    Barclay has pandered to the public employee unions by repeatedly voting for pension giveaways. He has also voted in favor of wasteful spending like the Albany Convention Center. His voting record as an Albany politician... not very conservative.

    If you are for fiscal and social conservative principles than Hoffman's your candidate.

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  11. 11:02 do you have links or newspaper reports backing up Barclay's wasteful spending? I wasn't aware of those pork projects.

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  12. The only issue that puts Hoffman further to the right in abortion and Doheny is not "pro-abortion". He is against almost every form of abortion, (including partial birth, late term, etc) but he is a libertarian and prefers smaller government with less legislation. And just so you are clear, that is a judicial decision...Roe v Wade was decided by the supreme court, not Congress, so the likelihood of the 23rd district congressman making any sort of an impact on the issue is very very low. The agenda for congress for the next few years will likely be fiscal policy, namely the jobs program, banking reform, health care reform. I think you people should keep your eye on the ball and vote for the candidate who is qualified for the job description. Doheny's thoughts on fiscal policy are actually more to the right than Hoffman (I actually don't think Hoffman totally understands fiscal policy, but that is a whole other issue).

    I really hope voters take the time to learn the positions of the candidates and te congressional agenda before voting. This is such a crucial time and I really want someone in Washington who can help get this district back up on its feet again. The population is sinking, jobs and businesses are disappearing, the standard of living is falling. We need to fix this ASAP and I want someone in office who understand finance and the economy the best and that is Doheny. Period.

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  13. Just like the likelyhood of a 23rd CD congressman making a real impact on taxes is very very low. You are incredulous. Way to lower expectations on your homeboy. We all know the real reason why voters shouldn't support Doheny. It's not because he isn't conservative. It is because of his extra-curricular baggage.

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  14. Nice rundown, but you missed as far as I can detect ISSUES ...

    So, issues don't matter? Just get our guy in office and hope he works the issues to our satisfaction later one? If not, so what; we still like him/her... what a deal.

    "That was Easy!" ®

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  15. Dan - I think Buggs has hit on more issues than we can count over the last couple of weeks. But just in case you missed the link here is Hoffman's issues page of his website: http://doughoffmanforcongress.com/issues.html

    Barclay and Doheny don't have a campaign website yet because they are a little behind. So much for transparency in government?

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  16. 7:20 am - Why doesn't Doheny put that up on his campaign website if he really believes it.

    Oh wait... he doesn't have a website. Welcome to the 21st Century Mr. Wall Street Bailout Doheny.

    I would like to see what slick Matt thinks about earmarks, trade, subsidies, spending on education, certain tax-credits vs. tax-breaks, social security, entitlement spending, and taxing Wall Street bankers.

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  17. Matt had a website this past summer but he likely won't get it up and running again until he announces he is actually running, which makes sense, but having one sure would clear up a lot of questions.

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  18. If he isn't running yet then why is he sending junk mail to committee members all across the district? What does he have to hide?

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  19. I don't know why Doheny hasn't announced he is running. In fact, none of the candidates have. Not Barclay. Not Hoffman. But all of them are running around the district campaigning and in Hoffman's case, soliciting donations online. I don't get it. Why the delay?

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  20. Anon. 1:31: I was specifically addressing this current post about no mention of issues; not what Bugs has or has not posted about in the past.

    For example: Rep. Owens has the followng quote in a recent News10Now interview.

    News10Now with Owens

    “The commitment that I see on the part of the people in Congress, other congressmen, both democrats and republicans and the staffs. At how hard people work every day,” Owens said.

    How you can see why I am hard on incumbents or potential challengers – they are out of touch and Owens’ statement kinda underscores that. I take issue with Mr. Owens on this statement for these reasons:

    The current Congress ranks a little under 20% in the approval department depending on which poll you read and/or trust. They are in a word, gridlocked, stalemated and really only care bout their own selfish interests to get reelected. Dozens are bailing and choosing not to run; and, that's good news. They have become the “Do nothing positive congress” and the people see it and that will translate into a huge turn around in November as well it should. Mr. Owens is out of touch.

    Mr. Owens holding on to that view will have a hard row to hoe if a challenger handles it correctly and stays positive and gets back to the basics of tough issues that matter to main street and not to Wall Street.

    That’s the way I see this race. Owens is vulnerable and right now he has three weak GOP potential challengers ... that's not good for the people, either. There has to be a better field to choose from.

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  21. Barclay's voting record.

    http://www.cpnys.org/sites/cpnys.org/files/Assembly_09_Ratings.pdf

    http://www.cpnys.org/sites/cpnys.org/files/Short_Description_of_Bills_Used_for_Assembly_Ratings.pdf

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  22. I'm sceptical that all these Republicans will flock to Hoffman in 2010. He won't have the fundraising and media exposure like he did the last time. Now he'll have 400+ other congressional races at the same time. He won't be the only guest for Glenn Beck.

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  23. While that might be true that there are other races going on it is also true that Doheny and Barclay will be splitting votes from moderates and the west end of the district. That alone will result in a Hoffman primary victory. Doheny and Barclay aren't going to waste their own money on a race they know they can't win.

    That's the main reason why neither has officially entered the race. They don't want to spend their own money on a website because they know they can't win. It looks like they are playing a game of chicken and they are both going to lose people's attention if they wait too much longer.

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  24. WOW you Barclay and Doheny staffers or minions need to do something constructive, like maybe have your candidate announce and talk for himself!

    Neither are doing themselves any good by hanging behind you bozos attacking each other. Read this stuff you are posting you all sound childish. Get your candidate out there talking to the people.

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  25. 12:45pm: Re: Doheny's "extra-curricular baggage", I would not be surprised if he starts bringing around a girlfriend, or maybe even a fiance, now that he is being criticized for being a womanizer. I think that would be exactly the kind of move this guy would make. The poor girl will be a pawn, but I bet she would only be in it for the money anyway. That is my prediction.

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